romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cut that favors the wealthiest americans. >> the fact is that mitt romney's got $5 trillion tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that he would make seniors and the middle class pay for. >> well, the voice you just heard there, ben le bolt. "outfront" tonight, you're going to talk to ben. he is obama's campaign press secretary. ben, good to talk to you. this $5 trillion number. obviously, you've gone through the math, as your campaign gets it in terms of how you get to $5 trillion in cuts, or nearly so. and also the eliminating the deductions, loopholes, which you say leave a $1 trillion hole. so why focus on the $5 trillion when by your own math you're saying it's a $1 trillion number? >> well, that's the proposal that mitt romney laid out. we can talk about the math specifically. i brought you the different pieces of his tax plan that he listed. >> i like your version, all scribbled in a sharpie there, huh? >> we don't have the sharp graphics here at the campaign that you guys showed at cnn. but the fact is, in a debate in februar